[phgardemin]

http://avia.russian.ee/pictures/romania/iar-822.jpg

http://avia.russian....nia/iar-822.php

@Valteras: It´s your job... http://www.rhcforum....tyle_emoticons/default/wink.gif :huh: ;) :D


PHILIPP

[Valteras]

Yes, I don't forget it.
But hold your horses for a couple of days...

Perhaps some of the Forum fellows will help you with some documentation!

........................

Daca aveti careva ceva documentatie cu IAR 822, poate ii dam lui Philipp o mana de ajutor. Se pare ca i s-a pus pata pe avioanele romanesti.
Stiu ca la editura la Modelism exista un soi de plan. Stie cineva ceva? O mai fi aparut si in revista Modelism ceva? Ca io nu mai tin minte...

[mvpricop]

Here is a wood scaled model of this aircraft. It's designed to be tested in the wind tunnel, not to fly......
You can see only the nose of the fuselage.

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Aceasta postare a fost editata de INCAS: 31 May 2007 - 11:55 AM

[mvpricop]

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[mvpricop]

And the wing....

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[mvpricop]

Valteras, la 31 May 2007, 09:23, a spus:

Yes, I don't forget it.
But hold your horses for a couple of days...

Perhaps some of the Forum fellows will help you with some documentation!

Da, s-a publicat sigur in Modelism, am revista acasa .... la Focsani......
Nu e cine stie ce plan, dar cred ca se poate cumpara asa cum este de la Modelism.



This is the web page where you can find the drawings:

http://www.modelism.ro/html/plans.htm

Aceasta postare a fost editata de INCAS: 31 May 2007 - 02:14 PM

[phgardemin]

Wooooowwww...! Super! Many thanks for that links.

@Valteras: Could you help me puchasing the plan?

@INCAS: What´s about that wood-model? Is it for sale?


PHILIPP

Aceasta postare a fost editata de phgardemin: 31 May 2007 - 12:56 PM

[mvpricop]

phgardemin, la 31 May 2007, 12:56, a spus:

@INCAS: What´s about that wood-model? Is it for sale?

It's for sale only with more than 100 000 square meters and some large buildings, together with around 2500-3000 tones of good steel :huh: !
It will cost some 10^6 - 10^7 E.

That all-wood model doesn't have those details you want, in order to build a competitive scaled model.
It would be quite useless for you.

You can order the drawings directly from Modelism. Usually they are sending them by mail.

Aceasta postare a fost editata de INCAS: 31 May 2007 - 02:15 PM

[Valteras]

phgardemin, la 31 May 2007, 12:56, a spus:

Valteras: Could you help me puchasing the plan?

What do you think I am doing since this morning?...
If you are lucky, this evening I will get the plan.
But don't be over excited. It cost/worth just 10 Euro and it could be just a simple DIN-A3 or A2 3-view drawing.

[Valteras]

INCAS, la 31 May 2007, 11:55, a spus:

Here is a wood scaled model of this aircraft.

By any chance, isn't it the wind tunnel model of the IAR 822's bigger brother, the all metal IAR 826?
Just asking...

[mvpricop]

Valteras, la 31 May 2007, 15:29, a spus:

By any chance, isn't it the wind tunnel model of the IAR 822's bigger brother, the all metal IAR 826?
Just asking...

No, it's not 826/827.
I put here a picture with IAR-826/827.
The pictures are from 2005.
The 822 was very dusty. We just moved it down from a piece of furniture, where it stayed for more than ten years....

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[mvpricop]

In fine, modelul de 822 a fost construit si folosit inainte de 1971, pentru ca are alt sistem de prindere - era alta balanta.
La modelul de 826/827 se vad doua gauri in aripa - se face prinderea pe balanta englezeasca.

Istorie, da' de-aia de care nu se va mai repeta (la noi)......

[phgardemin]

Valteras, la 31 May 2007, 15:24, a spus:

phgardemin, la 31 May 2007, 12:56, a spus:

Valteras: Could you help me puchasing the plan?

What do you think I am doing since this morning?...
If you are lucky, this evening I will get the plan.
But don't be over excited. It cost/worth just 10 Euro and it could be just a simple DIN-A3 or A2 3-view drawing.

Thats all perfect. I hope the drawing will have some views of the fuselage-cuttings.

PHILIPP

[Valteras]

Bad luck today. I was at the "Modelism" shop, down town. They do not have the plan.
Tomorrow I will pay a visit to the "Modelism" publishing house and I think they do have the plan. If not, I will order it.

INCAS, thanks for notifying upon 826.

[fan]

Planurile publicate in "Modelism" nr. 4 - 1987 (17) v-ar fi de folos ?
Le am scanate, dar presupun ca nu am voie sa le postez aici.
Daca sunt doritori, sa dea un MI (sunt FREE).

[Intruder]

Hello
Nice project. I'm starting to envy you :wub:

Here is a pdf with some details. Maybee you already have it, but just in case you don't here it is.
http://www.agplane.n...iar822small.pdf

[Valteras]

Fan,
Baga la mine:
florin.d"coada de maimutza"fabrik.ro
Am si io colectia dar tre sa scormonesc mult.

Intruder,
Are .pdf-ul ala.
Imi place semnatura ta. Rezonez...

[Valteras]

Valteras, la 31 May 2007, 20:39, a spus:

... I will pay a visit to the "Modelism" publishing house...

Phoned today at "Modelism" publishing house. If everything is going to be OK, they will duplicate the "master plan" today and by Monday we should get it.

Meanwhile, Fan's scan should be enough to temper you...

[phgardemin]

Another "Woooooowwww..."

Next winter will be "the winter" for the "IAR 822".

Many thanks to all of you, who helps me so much. I think I have to come next year for an e-meeting in Romania!?


PHILIPP

[Valteras]

phgardemin, la 1 Jun 2007, 10:33, a spus:

I think I have to come next year for an e-meeting in Romania!?

Just one?

[Marinaru]

INCAS, la 31 May 2007, 13:00, a spus:

Valteras, la 31 May 2007, 09:23, a spus:

Yes, I don't forget it.
But hold your horses for a couple of days...

Perhaps some of the Forum fellows will help you with some documentation!

Da, s-a publicat sigur in Modelism, am revista acasa .... la Focsani......
Nu e cine stie ce plan, dar cred ca se poate cumpara asa cum este de la Modelism.



This is the web page where you can find the drawings:

http://www.modelism.ro/html/plans.htm

wrong again!!! Planul din modelism a fost al lui IAR 827!!!...un frate mai tanar al lui 822, dar dupa parerea mea mai frumos putin chiar!!!

Valteras Scris la 31 May 2007, la 23:25, a spus:

florin.coada de maimutza

Stiam eu ceva, da chiar in halu asta frate?!

Aceasta postare a fost editata de Marinaru: 03 June 2007 - 02:36 AM

[mvpricop]

Marinare, vezi ca a pus cineva un prospect comunist al lui IAR-822. Asta se trage din 821 care era cu motor in stea, dar dupa ce au facut rost de Lycoming, l-au facut 822.

Am pus o poza cu o macheta de 826/827 - nu mai stiu care din ele si nu caut de-al dracu. Parca s-a construit unul singur, tarziu, in anii '80. Prima data a avut turboprop - un TP6 de vreo 500-600 CP second-hand, cumparat de un coleg de la un american cu vreo 6500 usd si apoi un motor in stea polonez. Sau poate invers, intai motorul in stea si dupa turboprop-ul. Avioanele 821/822 (anii '60 si '70) si 826/827 nu se pot confunda. Primele au fost produse in cateva zeci de bucati si au zburat cativa ani buni. 826/827 e una bucata, la muzeu, ca daduse Romania multilateral dezvoltata faliment prin '80 si nu se putea cumpara in cantitati suficiente nici macar motorul polonez - care diminua rusinos performantele.

Turbopropul TP6 cumparat la negociere la Intercontinental cu spaga (ceva visichi) a fost apoi folosit pentru IAR-825 - ar fi fost fain sa existe asa-ceva pe la noi. Dar, comunismul falimentar a facut imposibila treaba. Asa ca IAR-825 Triumf a fost echipat cu Lycoming cu piston si a devenit IAR-831 Pelican, una bucata, dracu stie pe unde o fi..... Si care saracu avea aripa si trenul de aterizare de IAR-823......

Iar Modelism nu a publicat niciodata IAR 826/827, ci numai 822.

Aceasta postare a fost editata de INCAS: 03 June 2007 - 03:49 PM

[Valteras]

Documentat INCAS asta!
Parca ar lucra la INCAS!

[phgardemin]

:D http://www.rhcforum....tyle_emoticons/default/ic_00.gif :D http://www.rhcforum....tyle_emoticons/default/ic_00.gif

[horia99]

INCAS, la 3 Jun 2007, 15:47, a spus:

Asa ca IAR-825 Triumf a fost echipat cu Lycoming cu piston si a devenit IAR-831 Pelican, una bucata, dracu stie pe unde o fi..... Si care saracu avea aripa si trenul de aterizare de IAR-823......

a fost vandut unui colectionar american

[mvpricop]

horia99, la 4 Jun 2007, 19:13, a spus:

a fost vandut unui colectionar american

Chestie tipic romaneasca: a fost un singur avion si in loc sa ajunga la muzeu, se vinde....

Rusii pe vremea lu' Tu-144 au facut si doua Mig-21 cu aripa dublu-delta. Dupa ce unul s-a prabusit, pe al doilea l-au oprit de la zbor si l-au trimis la muzeu.....

Mai era pe la Brasov si acel unic IAR-317. Cica statea in niste lazi. Oare se va vinde la fel?

[RedBaron]

INCAS, la 4 Jun 2007, 19:18, a spus:

Oare se va vinde la fel?

acu cati ani l-ai vazut sau ai auzit ca ar fi ?

daca de mai mult de un an..pe pariu ca e dat de mult :D

Aceasta postare a fost editata de RedBaron: 04 June 2007 - 08:34 PM

[SILVIU66]

please reply only in english.this topic was started in english,let's keep it that way.

thank you.

[Valteras]

phgardemin, la 4 Jun 2007, 11:07, a spus:

:D http://www.rhcforum....tyle_emoticons/default/ic_00.gif http://www.rhcforum....tyle_emoticons/default/ic_00.gif http://www.rhcforum....tyle_emoticons/default/ic_00.gif

INCAS has made a short dissertation about the IAR 822 genesis and it's "offspring".
Nothing interesting for you, unless if you attend for a scale model championship...
I am confident you will find somebody to translate the messages, and her name is not "Google Translate"...

Tuesday I will get your plan, hopefully.

Citeaza

I think I have to come next year for an e-meeting in Romania!?

Like this one , that Silviu 66 wrote an article about?

[Marinaru]

INCAS, la 3 Jun 2007, 16:47, a spus:

Marinare, vezi ca a pus cineva un prospect comunist al lui IAR-822. Asta se trage din 821 care era cu motor in stea, dar dupa ce au facut rost de Lycoming, l-au facut 822.

Wright (ca sa nu zica cumva Silviu ca nu scriu engleza...scriu cum vrea pana mea ba, ca sunt frate cu codru.,...desteptu naibii...daca deschidea unu subiect in sumeriana veche (nu ca ar exista aia noua) tre'a sa ma iau dupe el?!!!)
Deci am versiunea din modelism a lui 822, cu inmatriculare si bopsire (pe care valterasu nu o are, ca e doar o copie helio, amarata). Doritorilor, deseara o scanez si o dau moca, pedegeaba, gratis, fara plata.
827 era in curte aici langa mine, dar l-au mutat la muzeul de la Pipera...era derivat din 822-uri dar avea intradevar un motor turboprop initial inchiriat pentru probe, nu cumparat...important este ca 827 era mai mare decat 822-ul (scalat); la primul lui zbor, au uitat sa-i monteze compensatoarele masice pe eleroane si au vibrat rau in zbor...deasemenea stiu ca a mai avut ceva probleme cu comenzile.
Silviu, tradu tu te rog (am om....suchieeeer!!!!!!!)
Valterasule, sa-i dai omului si filmul "Destinatia Mahmudia"...ca l-au inregistrat baietii de pe forum (vezi subiectul de la 1:1)...acolo il poate vedea pe 822 la treaba!!

INCAS Scris la 4 Jun 2007, la 20:18, a spus:

Rusii ... au facut si doua Mig-21 cu aripa dublu-delta. Dupa ce unul s-a prabusit, pe al doilea l-au oprit de la zbor si l-au trimis la muzeu.....

Au mai facut si o versiune cu al treilea tip de aripa, in V, stranse pe langa fuselaj...nu delta!!!..daca vrei, am poze!

Aceasta postare a fost editata de Marinaru: 05 June 2007 - 11:57 AM